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June 02, 2010

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Paul M

Joe -

Good article (as usual). Your balanced budget solution makes perfect economic sense.

But what do you suggest we do when the response to reduction or elimination of generous entitlements is riots and mayhem? What happens when we inform police and fire fighters that their unrealistic, unsustainable salaries and pensions will have to be significantly reduced?

How do we justify a balanced budget that almost certainly will have a disparate impact on certain subgroups within society?

How do we change an entitlement mentality that has been nurtured by the government (here and in Europe) for several generations?

If you have no answers to these questions or are unwilling to suggest answers, then you should run for political office.

Paul M.

Joe Intili

Clever, and point taken. Those are deep socio-governmental questions you pose.

I think some attempt at prediction though can be gleaned from other moments in history when entitlements were cut or altered significantly.

President Reagan, working with Speaker Tip O'Neill, in the 80s sometime, worked out a compromise to put Social Security on an actuarially sound footing (for a while). Part of that compromise was an increase in the retirement age for full benefits, and a cut in benefits for those who retired early. At the same time, it raised the payroll tax, and increased the amount of income eligible for the tax, i.e. the Social Security "threshold". So, with that compromise, the pain was spread around - cuts in benefits, a later retirement age, and a tax increase. And with that the program was solvent until relatively recently.

During the Clinton presidency, Welfare was slashed really quite dramatically. Welfare rolls plummeted. Benefits ran out after a certain amount of time in the manner of unemployment insurance, and I believe ran out even more quickly if you couldn't show proof that you were looking for a job.

No riots or civil protests in either of those cases. With Social Security, everyone seemed to grasp that either the parameters of the program were to change or there was to be no program. And with Welfare, there seemed to exist an acknowledgment that people were using that program as a means and excuse not to work at all. Even some black leaders at that time expressed concern that the program was creating a dependent class, and if not reformed, could do more long-term harm than good, particularly to inner-city blacks, and in disproportionate numbers.

Again no riots.

But the kinds of deep program and budgetary cuts (watch out "military industrial complex" - Eisenhower will finally be heeded!), along with tax increases, which the Debt Commission is almost sure to propose, I believe will make Reagan's Social Security compromise and Clinton's Welfare reform appear minor.

So, again, I hope I will be buying someone dinner when it gets an up or down vote, no amendments. I'm actually laughing to myself, because I hope it happens, but know it won't.

And when that fails, as it will, then and only then do I think a groundswell will begin, around the country and across parties, to rein in federal appropriations power constitutionally, with a balanced-budget amendment, the ultimate fiscal check-and-balance on a representative form of government which shockingly but consistently has proven incapable of making the budgetary choices which both keep a minimum social safety net available and funded, and the federal budget in the black.

Marty Lynch

Hey Joe, You know all those crazy Tea Party folks that you bemoan? Well they are what's known as a groundswell; and they will be the reason you buy me dinner.
MVL1

Joe Intili

Sir, I will happily. Including the excessively pricey Irish Whiskey shot of your choosing.

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