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December 22, 2008

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martylynch

Joe - Your offer to begin hating you all over again would imply that I stopped. Anyhow, I can see that you spent a great deal of time on this and assuming everything you laid out is accurate, then I'd say, you did a nice job of "wrapping things up." I'd also say, "so what." I don't care if it's Greenspan's fault, I don't care if it's Bush's fault. I don't care what was then, I care what is now. I care that this congress, this president, and this president-elect decided, in the span of one week, to give $700B to an industry and not know what they were trying to solve. And worse yet, not have a way to find out how these companies are spending the people's money.

I'm still fairly ignorant on this topic, but it appears that what you describe as a mortgage backed securities calamity, now has caused credit to dry up. Wasn't the $700B supposed to allow these institutions to keep making loans so that people could buy cars? Or was this just a huge "mulligan" for these lenders and now they are actually going to do what they were supposed to do in the first place, give loans only to people who are credit worthy.

Since you're holding people's feet to the fire, how about you throw in a few hundred people who have something to lose, like a congressional seat.

My New Years wish for you is to get your blog back to things that foster debate and opinion. As much as you think partisan politics is bad and how we should find common ground; I say kiss my ass. If I believe in something, my job is to convince you I'm right. My job isn't to find a way for me to be half right and for you to be half right.

In the mean time, why don't you start asking questions like, why is Obama keeping Gates and Petraeus? Does that mean that all along he believed in the Bush policy? What's up with Gitmo? Will keeping it open be Barack's first broken campaign promise? What if he doesn't pull the troops out of Iraq? Will there be chants of "Obama lied, people died"? Change we can believe in; I'll be waiting payiently.

Christine Clewell

First, I would like to thank you for providing an informative, thoughtful, deliberate and insightful blog. In addition to my appreciation, I would like to congratulate you on Joe Biden's soon-to-be vice presidential status. You believed in him all along; from the "git-go" you supported him in Iowa to the White House. Obama was wise to choose a man who holds potential to contribute his formidable career in politics to an Obama administration. Yes, Senator Biden -who handled Palin with more grace than she will ever be able to deliver in a lifetime of reactionary Bush-league campaign tenor- tempers the youth of Obama, bringing a time-honored, deliberate foreign policy from his Senate-based perspective which convinces me daily that the US-American people have chosen well...for change...even if we see recycled clientele in the mix!

Now, insofar as my response to your opening paragraph sent today, I say this: Most people can't handle the truth. (It is a great line in "A Few Good Men"). It is for this reason that I say this: For those who wish to pursue the truth in all aspects of life, this takes work and requires tolerance to read material that agrees with us and that which aggravates and irritates us. If we are stirred to punch rhetorical fists and insults at a writer, then you have served us all well. You have moved us to feel...stirring us from our apathy and complacency and complaining! For those whose buttons have been sounding off like an alarm that won't quit, know that you have helped them in their journey to seek the truth in bringing change to our nation and its current state of economic and cultural disarray. You are not responsible for anyone's response -or reaction. Isn't the blog reader looking for someone to facilitate, inform and induce the journey in a pursuit of truth...more importantly, their own integrity? To this I say, keep on, keeping on. For those who wish to read, let the "Sojourner" of truth press on; to those who are disillusioned with the "Road Less Traveled" maybe they are looking for something else, in which case, the should read someone else or start their own blog!

We live in troubled, unsettled times where we prefer to blame; we don't want to be held accountable, not even to the economic mess we are in. However, to this I say: We are either part of the solution or we are part of the problem. We must choose.

So, to the first paragraph and a New Year's resolution, how 'bout this one: We can choose to read any blog...or not. Your call is to write them, the reader's call is to think, beyond their feelings, their present mindset and distill, filter and grow...or not. I say you have stirred the mind well. What a compliment!

So, thank you! Keep writing.

Final cadence: I once recall a wonderfully, wise music professor who told me, "Don't let the xxxxxxx get you down"!

Best of holiday wishes to you and your family.

Peace in all seasons Joe.
Christine Clewell Goehring

p.s. "My husband approves this message"!

Joe Intili

Your comments provoke comments. I'll start in reverse order that they arrived, a courtesy to the fairer sex my father would have insisted upon, and because flattery always works. Sorry, Marty. Give me just a minute.

Christine. Well. Congratulations, first off. Nicely done. Really, though, I should be offering that to Mr. Goehring. For having chosen so well. In those last two sentences, I'm reminded why we have poetry, with its significant demotion of grammar and sentence structure. Because "For having chosen so well" needs to be its own sentence.

Very, very nice. It makes me happy, and also sad, and that's how I know it makes me truly happy. You understand a sentence like that, instinctively, to your great credit.

To your comment, I say thank you, both for its admonition to keep writing, and its admonition of equal emphasis to illegitimi non carborundum. Both admonitions are good, helpful, wise, and much appreciated. Lastly, a compliment back to you, in that as I read your comment I had to resist the temptation to jump to the end and see who the author was, because the writing as writing was so good. I thought, as I read, "This person should have the blog."

Thanks, Christine. Don't be a stranger. I look forward to meeting the good Mr. Goehring one day soon.

Marty. It made me smile to know you had never stopped hating me. Truly. If I ever found I was on the verge of such a thing, I would try harder.

I wrote a post recently that said the $700 billion was right, because it is how liquidity crises throughout history have been fought and defeated. In the simplest possible terms, it's how they must be fought. Liquidity must be restored. But, your point is very well taken. Because in THIS crisis, these troubled, illiquid banks have received BILLIONS of taxpayer money, and, by all reports, not only have not started lending again, but, in a show of audacity only possible from something truly corrupt, don't even want to say what they have done with the money. It's more than the total spent on the U.S. military in a year. It's more than 3 times the GDP of Denmark, and smelling, now, every bit as fishy. I want hearings. I want prosecutions, as it's the only remedy for arrogance this grand.

And, to be clear, I don't advocate conjoining your 50% right with mine, to formulate some political centaur likely more than 50% wrong. I argue for argument without animus and diatribe, without postulating stupidity, without gamesmanship. If politicians or pundits or you or I or anybody wish to argue a problem's solution, each armed with the standard dogmatic arguments of his or her affiliated party, then I'm all for it, but let's do it without insinuations as to the opponent's obvious cognitive handicap, and with the capacity on both sides to say "Good point" to a good point, rather than deny it as the Black Knight in The Holy Grail, "'Tis but a scratch....just a flesh wound....had enough, eh?"

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